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Anonymous

It's the classic "Us" versus "Them", and everybody thinks they're right.
Now I'm not necessarily For or Against the OWS movement; I'm merely an
observer. At the start of OWS I was sympathetic to the protesters/message,
but as time passes I've found myself becoming increasingly disenchanted and
critical of the movement. The OWS sit-ins and protests, whatever they stand
for, haven't accomplished much at all. Sure, they make for great
demonstrations, and they've certainly pissed off a lot of people, but
ultimately they haven't been very successful beyond the scope of attracting
attention to themselves. Instead of raising positive awareness, they've
raised tempers, and failed to adequately communicate/educate the public
about what they stand for, and why they stand for it. True, this is partly
due to media sabotage and the complacent ignorance of much of the public,
but it's also greatly due to OWS's inability to effectively create/mobilize
a clear and uniform course of action- aside from sporadic protests and
marches. Furthermore, the movement is fragmented, lacks a coherent direction
and discernable goals. OWS has attracted people from all sorts of opposing
ideologies, and has become inherently self-contradictory, with many people
only attending rallies to promote their own agendas. The only image and
message that OWS has been able to maintain is that they're against
BigMoneyInterests, and the injustice and problems therein. Although that is
a great message, it completely falls short of tangible social change. There
is something inherently naive about OWS and their tactics.
That being said, I can appreciate the overall message of OWS, and I do
agree that the current global economic paradigm has many faults. But
standing around bitching won't change anything, nor will pissing off your
peers and your community. At this point the name "Ocuppy" itself is sullied.
That's not to say that the movement no longer possesses potential, but if
anything is going to be salvaged from it, they will have to rid the name
"Occupy" and start anew.
In the end OWS may be seen as a haunting precursor to something much
larger. But for now the majority of the public is still much too comfortable
with the status quo to get behind any serious cause for
social/political/economic paradigm shifts. We're simply not desperate enough
to see/think honestly. Maybe my observations are poor, and perhaps I am
wrong.
Time/History will tell.

Anonymous

It's the classic "Us" versus "Them", and everybody thinks they're right.
Now I'm not necessarily For or Against the OWS movement; I'm merely an
observer. At the start of OWS I was sympathetic to the protesters/message,
but as time passes I've found myself becoming increasingly disenchanted and
critical of the movement. The OWS sit-ins and protests, whatever they stand
for, haven't accomplished much at all. Sure, they make for great
demonstrations, and they've certainly pissed off a lot of people, but
ultimately they haven't been very successful beyond the scope of attracting
attention to themselves. Instead of raising positive awareness, they've
raised tempers, and failed to adequately communicate/educate the public
about what they stand for, and why they stand for it. True, this is partly
due to media sabotage and the complacent ignorance of much of the public,
but it's also greatly due to OWS's inability to effectively create/mobilize
a clear and uniform course of action- aside from sporadic protests and
marches. Furthermore, the movement is fragmented, lacks a coherent direction
and discernable goals. OWS has attracted people from all sorts of opposing
ideologies, and has become inherently self-contradictory, with many people
only attending rallies to promote their own agendas. The only image and
message that OWS has been able to maintain is that they're against
BigMoneyInterests, and the injustice and problems therein. Although that is
a great message, it completely falls short of tangible social change. There
is something inherently naive about OWS and their tactics.
That being said, I can appreciate the overall message of OWS, and I do
agree that the current global economic paradigm has many faults. But
standing around bitching won't change anything, nor will pissing off your
peers and your community. At this point the name "Ocuppy" itself is sullied.
That's not to say that the movement no longer possesses potential, but if
anything is going to be salvaged from it, they will have to rid the name
"Occupy" and start anew.
In the end OWS may be seen as a haunting precursor to something much
larger. But for now the majority of the public is still much too comfortable
with the status quo to get behind any serious cause for
social/political/economic paradigm shifts. We're simply not desperate enough
to see/think honestly. Maybe my observations are poor, and perhaps I am
wrong.
Time/History will tell.

Anonymous

This is easily the most reasonable and intelligent comment I've read on this site. I really hope that people within the movement listen to your observations, instead of just getting angry at the criticism.

Anonymous

This is easily the most reasonable and intelligent comment I've read on this site. I really hope that people within the movement listen to your observations, instead of just getting angry at the criticism.

BM

It is not intelligent. Look at how much information he gets away with not telling you. HE can't even tell you what the goals of OWS are and he has the capacity to figure it out for himself. Sometimes you have to READ AN ENTIRE BOOK to figure out why you should be mad at Wall Street and you can't just get a soundbite to believe it.

BM

It is not intelligent. Look at how much information he gets away with not telling you. HE can't even tell you what the goals of OWS are and he has the capacity to figure it out for himself. Sometimes you have to READ AN ENTIRE BOOK to figure out why you should be mad at Wall Street and you can't just get a soundbite to believe it.

Anonymous

Just as I thought, your movement is going to refuse to listen to reason and constructive criticism. Fine then, keep camping out in parks and expecting things to change. good luck.

Anonymous

Just as I thought, your movement is going to refuse to listen to reason and constructive criticism. Fine then, keep camping out in parks and expecting things to change. good luck.

BM

Dude, there is no way you are just an observer to anything. You have your own goals and one of them is discrediting this tiny magazine and the movement it helped form. It's impossible to say "I am simply an observer" and then all you do is talk shit about OWS from YOUR perspective, which isn't dealing with a lot of information. For example, I have access to all of the information I need to adequately understand the economics motivating OWS. If you want me to spoon feed you the information I had to discover all by myself, because you are too lazy to get enough information about a subject before you protest it, then you can't possibly be serious about protesting anything. You are here Occupying Adbusters and what are your stated goals? None. What you are doing falls short of tangible social change! Your opinion is a fragmented opinion among your opinion group, many of you agreeing that Occupy has "attracted people from all sorts of opposing ideologies, and has become inherently self-contradictory, with many people only attending rallies to promote their own agendas," while failing to notice that you have no movement, no group, no unit OPPOSING Occupy collectively. None. Where Occupy may have a few thousand, you have no group whatsoever. These fucked up hypocritical contradictions you have created for yourself exist only because you are here bitchinng about how bitching doesn't accomplsh anything. Either admit that what you just did got a result (my reply), and thus OWS got results (you coming to Adbusters), or sit there and eat your own bullshit alone.

BM

Dude, there is no way you are just an observer to anything. You have your own goals and one of them is discrediting this tiny magazine and the movement it helped form. It's impossible to say "I am simply an observer" and then all you do is talk shit about OWS from YOUR perspective, which isn't dealing with a lot of information. For example, I have access to all of the information I need to adequately understand the economics motivating OWS. If you want me to spoon feed you the information I had to discover all by myself, because you are too lazy to get enough information about a subject before you protest it, then you can't possibly be serious about protesting anything. You are here Occupying Adbusters and what are your stated goals? None. What you are doing falls short of tangible social change! Your opinion is a fragmented opinion among your opinion group, many of you agreeing that Occupy has "attracted people from all sorts of opposing ideologies, and has become inherently self-contradictory, with many people only attending rallies to promote their own agendas," while failing to notice that you have no movement, no group, no unit OPPOSING Occupy collectively. None. Where Occupy may have a few thousand, you have no group whatsoever. These fucked up hypocritical contradictions you have created for yourself exist only because you are here bitchinng about how bitching doesn't accomplsh anything. Either admit that what you just did got a result (my reply), and thus OWS got results (you coming to Adbusters), or sit there and eat your own bullshit alone.

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