Do Abstract Systems Work?
Our species’ hypertrophied linguistic abilities have allowed us to create entire systems composed of elements that we either cannot directly observe or cannot observe at all: mathematics, physics, ideologies, theologies, economies, democracies, technocracies and the like, which manipulate abstractions – symbols and relationships between symbols – rather than the concrete, messy, non-atomistic entities that have specific spatial and temporal extents and that constitute reality for all species. There is a continuum between products of pure thought, like chess or mathematics, sciences which produce theories that can be tested by repeatable direct experiment, like physics and chemistry, and the rest – political science, economics, sociology and the like – which are a hodgepodge of iffy assumptions and similarly iffy statistical techniques. Perfectly formal systems of thought, like logic and mathematics, seem the most rigorous, and have served as the guiding light for all other forms of thinking. But there’s a problem.
The problem is that formal systems don’t work. They have internal consistency, to be sure, and they can do all sorts of amusing tricks, but they don’t map onto reality in a way that isn’t essentially an act of violence. When mapped onto real life, formal systems of thought self-destruct, destroy nature, or, most commonly, both. Wherever we look we see systems that we have contrived run against limits of their own making: Burning fossil fuels causes global warming; plastics decay and produce endocrine disruptors; industrial agriculture depletes aquifers and destroys topsoil; and so on. We are already sitting on a mountain of guaranteed negative outcomes – political, environmental, ecological, economic – and every day those of us who still have a job go to work to pile that mountain a little bit higher.
Although this phenomenon can be observed by anyone who cares to see it, those who have observed it have always laid blame for it on the limitations and the flaws of the systems, never on the limitations and the flaws of the human ability to think and to reason. For some un-reason, we feel that our ability to reason is limitless and infinitely perfectible. Nobody has voiced the idea that the exercise of our ability to think can reach the point of diminishing, then negative, returns. It is yet to be persuasively argued that the human propensity for abstract reasoning is a defect of breeding that leads to collective insanity. Perhaps the argument would have to be made recursively: The faculty in question is so flawed that it is incapable of seeing its own flaws.
Dmitry Orlov – cluborlov.blogspot.com
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Pishab
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Pishab
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Anonymous
Funny how the intellectuals and academics get just as defensive as the Bible bangers when you question their beliefs. They are both dogmatists in their own silly ways.
Anonymous
Funny how the intellectuals and academics get just as defensive as the Bible bangers when you question their beliefs. They are both dogmatists in their own silly ways.
capparellimikec...
the belief in question in this article is the very thing that enables us to question belief. it's no dogma being overturned. it's abandoning the only tool that has kept us from dying under the weight of poorly designed architecture. the tool that has developed techniques to allow most of the human population to exist at the scale it has. the tool that has allowed you to even talk in this forum. don't abandon your brains. they love you; they're just challenging at times. solutions to our societal problems aren't going to come from not thinking about them. there are limitations to our psychology, true, just as spiders can't comprehend science, but these beliefs being questioned are approximations of reality. not dogma. a good scientist has never asserted that his beliefs are absolute truth, just that they are very well supported hunches.
in time we may develop new systems and new logics to help us better approximate reality, but just because the status quo doesn't work, doesn't mean that we should give up trying to think of new methods with the tools that do.
i realize this comment can be seen as defensive and i agree. i am being defensive. i don't want to return to the dark ages.
capparellimikec...
the belief in question in this article is the very thing that enables us to question belief. it's no dogma being overturned. it's abandoning the only tool that has kept us from dying under the weight of poorly designed architecture. the tool that has developed techniques to allow most of the human population to exist at the scale it has. the tool that has allowed you to even talk in this forum. don't abandon your brains. they love you; they're just challenging at times. solutions to our societal problems aren't going to come from not thinking about them. there are limitations to our psychology, true, just as spiders can't comprehend science, but these beliefs being questioned are approximations of reality. not dogma. a good scientist has never asserted that his beliefs are absolute truth, just that they are very well supported hunches.
in time we may develop new systems and new logics to help us better approximate reality, but just because the status quo doesn't work, doesn't mean that we should give up trying to think of new methods with the tools that do.
i realize this comment can be seen as defensive and i agree. i am being defensive. i don't want to return to the dark ages.
Anonymous
Sorry bud, but we won't "develop new systems or new logics to help us approximate reality." That is just another bit of intellectual dogma that you're trying to shovel there. If you take science and logic to their extreme you will always reach paradox as you see with physics and mathematics. Ever heard of Wittgenstein or Godel? Every theory is doomed to incompleteness, no matter how hard you chase after the carrot you will get no closer to eating it.
As for your fear of returning to the dark ages. We're already in one. Technology and over consumption have destroyed whatever humanity we have left. You can thank your sweet intellect for that one.
Anonymous
Sorry bud, but we won't "develop new systems or new logics to help us approximate reality." That is just another bit of intellectual dogma that you're trying to shovel there. If you take science and logic to their extreme you will always reach paradox as you see with physics and mathematics. Ever heard of Wittgenstein or Godel? Every theory is doomed to incompleteness, no matter how hard you chase after the carrot you will get no closer to eating it.
As for your fear of returning to the dark ages. We're already in one. Technology and over consumption have destroyed whatever humanity we have left. You can thank your sweet intellect for that one.
capparellimikec...
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capparellimikec...
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