Anonymous Joins #OCCUPYWALLSTREET
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Jammers, dreamers, patriots,
Anonymous has just released a video communique endorsing #OCCUPYWALLSTREET. Using language from our first Tactical Briefing, the video calls on protesters to adopt the nonviolent Tahrir-acampadas model. On the 17th of September, it says, "flood into lower Manhattan, set up tents, kitchens, peaceful barricades and occupy Wall Street for a few months … Once there, we shall incessantly repeat one simple demand in a plurality of voices."
See also signs of support for S17 on Anonymous's Twitter and websites.
Meanwhile S17 is surging ahead internationally. Simultaneous occupations of financial districts are now being planned in New York City, Madrid, Milan, London, Paris and San Francisco. With a bit of luck, this list of participating cities will expand.
If we can pull together just the right mix of nonviolence, tenacity and strategic smarts, S17 could be the beginning of the global revolution we've all been dreaming about for so long … wouldn't that be lovely.
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Byron King
Right. What happens after the sit in? The reason the sit in in Egypt had power was that they did not have the freedom to do a sit in. In America you can sit wherever you want. Especially Wall Street. They will take you on a tour if you want. There is a tent city in Israel right now and I'm not sure what good it is doing.
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/aug/06/world/la-fg-israel-tent-town-20110806
The only citizens who are able to participate in such protests are the ones who are more free than the ones who can't protest. So if this protest is for freedom you are showcasing your freedom by being able to take weeks/months to live in a tent city. It goes against logic that anyone who can participate in this tent city actually understands the lack of freedom that debt from the corporations and banks of the world have enforced on the average citizen.
If I protested in a tent city I would lose my job, my house and most likely my family.
Seriously think this through. What good will it do? I have seen little dialogue on this topic since its inception. It seems poorly planned. I wish you the best but I don't see it having any affect on the traders. They will look at you with a dirty grin when they walk into work and talk about how they too used to be young and full of passion before they had families and had to pay their bills.
Regards,
bk
I believe The Corporate Body is the one you need to protest. Freedom we already have. Protest the powers that are taking our freedom away each day and then you might have a viable vehicle for change.
The Corporate Body
Byron King
Right. What happens after the sit in? The reason the sit in in Egypt had power was that they did not have the freedom to do a sit in. In America you can sit wherever you want. Especially Wall Street. They will take you on a tour if you want. There is a tent city in Israel right now and I'm not sure what good it is doing.
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/aug/06/world/la-fg-israel-tent-town-20110806
The only citizens who are able to participate in such protests are the ones who are more free than the ones who can't protest. So if this protest is for freedom you are showcasing your freedom by being able to take weeks/months to live in a tent city. It goes against logic that anyone who can participate in this tent city actually understands the lack of freedom that debt from the corporations and banks of the world have enforced on the average citizen.
If I protested in a tent city I would lose my job, my house and most likely my family.
Seriously think this through. What good will it do? I have seen little dialogue on this topic since its inception. It seems poorly planned. I wish you the best but I don't see it having any affect on the traders. They will look at you with a dirty grin when they walk into work and talk about how they too used to be young and full of passion before they had families and had to pay their bills.
Regards,
bk
I believe The Corporate Body is the one you need to protest. Freedom we already have. Protest the powers that are taking our freedom away each day and then you might have a viable vehicle for change.
The Corporate Body
Anonymous
Don't you see? You are unable to protest, as you are a debt slave. Your days are pre-scheduled, and missing one could mean the end of your proverbial life, as you said; losing your job, your house and your family. Your sole reason for existence is to create profit for a few, who live in luxuries beyond imagination.
The dictators in the East are no worse than the dictators we have, the corporate system, the military-industrial complex, the Fed and ultimately; the Government, those who rule.
Your liberties and civil rights have been stripped away with the PATRIOT ACT, as the Government has agencies spying on anything it deems anti-American, and labels anyone who disagrees with it's policies terrorists. The world, it rules with an iron fist, invading countries and planting leaders favorable of their privatization of natural resources and other important assets. These, in turn, become part of the Elite, who will run their own sort of Wall Street, impoverishing their people while living in grand luxury, as we've seen now in Libya.
So tell me, what are these so-called freedoms you have?
We are all slaves of a system called capitalism; a great idea, but doesn't work, like communism. It favors the benefit of a few, those wise enough to cheat the system with vast resources. It works to feed greed and generate profit. Did you know that pretty much all money in the world is imaginary? It's all just debt. It's imaginary, and it's created with your sweat and tears, and those of your children. It is an infinitely consuming machine, which will not stop until this planet is stripped dry and possibly uninhabitable. There is no such thing as infinite growth in a finite world, with finite resources.
Those in charge do not agree, or do not care; their offspring is already set for life, even if the rest of humanity withers away.
Anonymous
Don't you see? You are unable to protest, as you are a debt slave. Your days are pre-scheduled, and missing one could mean the end of your proverbial life, as you said; losing your job, your house and your family. Your sole reason for existence is to create profit for a few, who live in luxuries beyond imagination.
The dictators in the East are no worse than the dictators we have, the corporate system, the military-industrial complex, the Fed and ultimately; the Government, those who rule.
Your liberties and civil rights have been stripped away with the PATRIOT ACT, as the Government has agencies spying on anything it deems anti-American, and labels anyone who disagrees with it's policies terrorists. The world, it rules with an iron fist, invading countries and planting leaders favorable of their privatization of natural resources and other important assets. These, in turn, become part of the Elite, who will run their own sort of Wall Street, impoverishing their people while living in grand luxury, as we've seen now in Libya.
So tell me, what are these so-called freedoms you have?
We are all slaves of a system called capitalism; a great idea, but doesn't work, like communism. It favors the benefit of a few, those wise enough to cheat the system with vast resources. It works to feed greed and generate profit. Did you know that pretty much all money in the world is imaginary? It's all just debt. It's imaginary, and it's created with your sweat and tears, and those of your children. It is an infinitely consuming machine, which will not stop until this planet is stripped dry and possibly uninhabitable. There is no such thing as infinite growth in a finite world, with finite resources.
Those in charge do not agree, or do not care; their offspring is already set for life, even if the rest of humanity withers away.
Byron King
Yes, I see and I have clearly stated that. Thank you. As far as freedom...
You have the freedom to protest. To sit at Wall Street for months in tents. Those are your freedoms. I had freedoms to go to these tent cities as well until I had children. Believe me children change your life. If you don't have children you would not understand. Children need to go to school each day, eat. I must provide health insurance for my brain cancer and a home for my family.
My girls have the freedom to go to school. Good schools at that. Public too.
I have the freedom to buy property that I will never really own. I have the freedom to leave this country. I have the freedom to get an education. I have the freedom to write this without thinking twice about the repercussions of someone kicking in my door at night and taking away my life and my family.
I have the freedom to worship or not worship as I wish. I have the freedom to marry anyone I want.
Debt is indeed the slave. Corporations are indeed the slave owners. If you are debt free you are not a slave yet you are a slave to your body's physical needs because you will need food and water to survive. Food and water are traded natural resources. Water rights are owned by corporations so you are also a slave to water rights unless you own a fresh water stream and if that's the case you are most likely wealthy therefore you have had to deal with corporate bodies to gain that wealth.
We are all slaves to some degree is what I am saying. If you go to Wall Street and flaunt your freedom that you don't believe you have, what you are actually doing is showcasing the freedoms that you have but others don't. You are spitting in the eye of the freedom that so many countries would love to have.
Look at the Arab spring for examples of people willing to die to have what we have and I see that as taking it for granted. Is the system, perfect? No. Can it be improved, yes? But why chant "We Want Freedom" when we actually have more freedom than any other country in the world. Look at Fox News and the BS and hate speech they spew every day for an example. Most countries would close them down for their anti-everything propaganda. How they have taken over the minds of a small majority that have this country by the proverbial balls.
But we don't shut them down because in America we have the "Freedom" to chose what media outlets to watch.
All I am saying is change the slogan or chant. If you want to sit in your tent city you have my blessing.
From one slave to another I wish you the best.
I believe physical bodies will not have the impact that a digital protest will have. Anonymous has been so powerful because they take direct action. There is no need for a tent city. Make a digital nation and take back our freedom from our debtors. No need to leave your hometown. Hacktivist can free the world from corporations. Take down the trading system's digital apparatus and watch the world take notice.
Byron King
Yes, I see and I have clearly stated that. Thank you. As far as freedom...
You have the freedom to protest. To sit at Wall Street for months in tents. Those are your freedoms. I had freedoms to go to these tent cities as well until I had children. Believe me children change your life. If you don't have children you would not understand. Children need to go to school each day, eat. I must provide health insurance for my brain cancer and a home for my family.
My girls have the freedom to go to school. Good schools at that. Public too.
I have the freedom to buy property that I will never really own. I have the freedom to leave this country. I have the freedom to get an education. I have the freedom to write this without thinking twice about the repercussions of someone kicking in my door at night and taking away my life and my family.
I have the freedom to worship or not worship as I wish. I have the freedom to marry anyone I want.
Debt is indeed the slave. Corporations are indeed the slave owners. If you are debt free you are not a slave yet you are a slave to your body's physical needs because you will need food and water to survive. Food and water are traded natural resources. Water rights are owned by corporations so you are also a slave to water rights unless you own a fresh water stream and if that's the case you are most likely wealthy therefore you have had to deal with corporate bodies to gain that wealth.
We are all slaves to some degree is what I am saying. If you go to Wall Street and flaunt your freedom that you don't believe you have, what you are actually doing is showcasing the freedoms that you have but others don't. You are spitting in the eye of the freedom that so many countries would love to have.
Look at the Arab spring for examples of people willing to die to have what we have and I see that as taking it for granted. Is the system, perfect? No. Can it be improved, yes? But why chant "We Want Freedom" when we actually have more freedom than any other country in the world. Look at Fox News and the BS and hate speech they spew every day for an example. Most countries would close them down for their anti-everything propaganda. How they have taken over the minds of a small majority that have this country by the proverbial balls.
But we don't shut them down because in America we have the "Freedom" to chose what media outlets to watch.
All I am saying is change the slogan or chant. If you want to sit in your tent city you have my blessing.
From one slave to another I wish you the best.
I believe physical bodies will not have the impact that a digital protest will have. Anonymous has been so powerful because they take direct action. There is no need for a tent city. Make a digital nation and take back our freedom from our debtors. No need to leave your hometown. Hacktivist can free the world from corporations. Take down the trading system's digital apparatus and watch the world take notice.
Anonymous
"You are spitting in the eye of the freedom that so many countries would love to have"
Agreed, to a point. We stand for freedom, and were built up in its image.. but we have given it away to capitalism. It's time to take it back! The Middle East has Dictators holding them back, we have ellusive numbers and a manipulated sence of purpose.
Anonymous
"You are spitting in the eye of the freedom that so many countries would love to have"
Agreed, to a point. We stand for freedom, and were built up in its image.. but we have given it away to capitalism. It's time to take it back! The Middle East has Dictators holding them back, we have ellusive numbers and a manipulated sence of purpose.
Anonymous
I wholeheartedly agree with this comment.
But effective protests need to have achievable demands.
Based on what you are saying you should demand:
1. That the Patriot Act be rescinded. (I think you would get a lot of popular support from US citizens on this one, given now the 9/11 hype is fading and Bush/Cheney have been shown to be war profiteers)
2. That legislation be introduced to reform the corporate system. This is the short "sound byte" version, the longer version being that corporations that commit criminal acts should have their charters revoked, that no corporation should be entitled to government hand-outs, that previous hand-outs should be repaid immediately with interest, that government office holders should immediately declare all corporate interests and be purged of all conflicts and most importantly, that a clause be forcefully inserted into every corporate charter requiring people when organized as a corporation still need to act in a way that is in good faith and good conscience. (There is a clause similar to this in Australian consumer protection laws and it works)
Demands such as these would give the protest a point and an achievable conclusion. Otherwise I fear it is just a bit of a wank.
Anonymous
I wholeheartedly agree with this comment.
But effective protests need to have achievable demands.
Based on what you are saying you should demand:
1. That the Patriot Act be rescinded. (I think you would get a lot of popular support from US citizens on this one, given now the 9/11 hype is fading and Bush/Cheney have been shown to be war profiteers)
2. That legislation be introduced to reform the corporate system. This is the short "sound byte" version, the longer version being that corporations that commit criminal acts should have their charters revoked, that no corporation should be entitled to government hand-outs, that previous hand-outs should be repaid immediately with interest, that government office holders should immediately declare all corporate interests and be purged of all conflicts and most importantly, that a clause be forcefully inserted into every corporate charter requiring people when organized as a corporation still need to act in a way that is in good faith and good conscience. (There is a clause similar to this in Australian consumer protection laws and it works)
Demands such as these would give the protest a point and an achievable conclusion. Otherwise I fear it is just a bit of a wank.
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