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Anonymous

The Jews you know, I'm guessing, are from North America, where the vast majority of Jews are Ashkenazi.

In Israel most Jews are Mizrahim. This is the difference I'm trying to illustrate. People are just applying stereotypes about North American Jews to Israelis. You cannot generalize an entire nation, even if that nation is Israel.

Anonymous

The Jews you know, I'm guessing, are from North America, where the vast majority of Jews are Ashkenazi.

In Israel most Jews are Mizrahim. This is the difference I'm trying to illustrate. People are just applying stereotypes about North American Jews to Israelis. You cannot generalize an entire nation, even if that nation is Israel.

Khazaria

"Nation of Israel"?

I think you mean that place that still hasn't declared it's international borders and hence is referred to with quotations around it. As in: "that theoretical place that wants to call itself a nation but is actually just a foreign army of western elites occupying Palestine and Syria." Sorry bubs but the meme is accurate. "Israel" is not a nation but a sick fantasy-land. And if it can't declare it's international boundaries then it is not a nation. Never mind that it was completely made up to begin with.

The quotes stay until justice is delivered to "Israel."

Khazaria

"Nation of Israel"?

I think you mean that place that still hasn't declared it's international borders and hence is referred to with quotations around it. As in: "that theoretical place that wants to call itself a nation but is actually just a foreign army of western elites occupying Palestine and Syria." Sorry bubs but the meme is accurate. "Israel" is not a nation but a sick fantasy-land. And if it can't declare it's international boundaries then it is not a nation. Never mind that it was completely made up to begin with.

The quotes stay until justice is delivered to "Israel."

Will Steed

Go to your beloved Wikipedia and look up your beloved Benny Morris. Then take a jaunt down your local book shop mate and read Fateful Triangle By prominent Jewish Scholar and former resident of "Israel" Noam Chomsky. I'll take Chomsky over Wikipedia any day.

Think you're the one distracting from the original poster. It's pretty obvious that Jews use the illusion of race to promote colonialism in Palestine and the middle east in general. It's is likely hard for someone such as yourself to be objective about this but sadly it's true.

You can argue all day long about how important "ethnicity" is and thank you for awkwardly backpeddling about race but you and your Zionist trolls are still whinging on about how everyone here is racist for calling you out for YOUR ethnic cleansing. And you can't disprove the charges it so you blather about "racism." So which is it?
Secondly suggesting that race doesn't matter is patently absurd after you attempt to lecture us about your Asiatic jews and mizrahi this or that, shephardic so and so. Looks pretty obvious that there is no claim to Palestine without a racial connection to the place. And this is precisely why you adopt Hitlers own made-up term "anti-semitic" to group yourself in with the Semites of Palestine whose land you want.
Can all Christians move to Palestine and call it theirs cause Jesus lived there? Can all Italians can come to England and claim it as theirs because thousands of years ago the Romans occupied it for a hundred years. Absolutely not. Just doesn't work like that champ.

You're had mate. You clearly have nothing in response to the original poster in this matter.

Tell you what why don't you post a link to your facebook page and we'll all collectively judge whether YOU are white or not. Or why don't we post a link to all the war criminals exposed in the "Israeli" war crime of Caste Lead. Sound good to you? And then we can simply take a look with our own eyes how many of these scum are actually Lilly-white Judeo Supremacists.

Here ya go:
http://s242816488.onlinehome.us/criminals2/

Looks like an awful lot of white war criminals to me. I'm sure you are acquainted with some of these monsters - all known war criminals. Nice to see that their stats and addresses are also included courtesy of Wikileaks. Just in case anyone wants to send them a letter or interview them about their ethnic cleansing.
Don't feel so cool now do ya matey. Each and every last one of these bastards will never be able to hide from their crimes of murdering innocent men, women and children.

Seriously go get a copy of "Fateful Triangle" and while you're at it "The Holocaust Industry" by renown Jewish scholar Norman G Finkelstein.
Do your self a favor and educate yourself - you owe it to the people whose lives you have hijacked in Palestine.

Will Steed

Go to your beloved Wikipedia and look up your beloved Benny Morris. Then take a jaunt down your local book shop mate and read Fateful Triangle By prominent Jewish Scholar and former resident of "Israel" Noam Chomsky. I'll take Chomsky over Wikipedia any day.

Think you're the one distracting from the original poster. It's pretty obvious that Jews use the illusion of race to promote colonialism in Palestine and the middle east in general. It's is likely hard for someone such as yourself to be objective about this but sadly it's true.

You can argue all day long about how important "ethnicity" is and thank you for awkwardly backpeddling about race but you and your Zionist trolls are still whinging on about how everyone here is racist for calling you out for YOUR ethnic cleansing. And you can't disprove the charges it so you blather about "racism." So which is it?
Secondly suggesting that race doesn't matter is patently absurd after you attempt to lecture us about your Asiatic jews and mizrahi this or that, shephardic so and so. Looks pretty obvious that there is no claim to Palestine without a racial connection to the place. And this is precisely why you adopt Hitlers own made-up term "anti-semitic" to group yourself in with the Semites of Palestine whose land you want.
Can all Christians move to Palestine and call it theirs cause Jesus lived there? Can all Italians can come to England and claim it as theirs because thousands of years ago the Romans occupied it for a hundred years. Absolutely not. Just doesn't work like that champ.

You're had mate. You clearly have nothing in response to the original poster in this matter.

Tell you what why don't you post a link to your facebook page and we'll all collectively judge whether YOU are white or not. Or why don't we post a link to all the war criminals exposed in the "Israeli" war crime of Caste Lead. Sound good to you? And then we can simply take a look with our own eyes how many of these scum are actually Lilly-white Judeo Supremacists.

Here ya go:
http://s242816488.onlinehome.us/criminals2/

Looks like an awful lot of white war criminals to me. I'm sure you are acquainted with some of these monsters - all known war criminals. Nice to see that their stats and addresses are also included courtesy of Wikileaks. Just in case anyone wants to send them a letter or interview them about their ethnic cleansing.
Don't feel so cool now do ya matey. Each and every last one of these bastards will never be able to hide from their crimes of murdering innocent men, women and children.

Seriously go get a copy of "Fateful Triangle" and while you're at it "The Holocaust Industry" by renown Jewish scholar Norman G Finkelstein.
Do your self a favor and educate yourself - you owe it to the people whose lives you have hijacked in Palestine.

Anonymous

You keep pointing to the fact that Jews are all white, like it's some kind of obsession. Once again, I point to the fact, that most Jews in Israel are not white.

Prior to the WWI, there was no Israel, no Syria, no Palestine, no Egypt, no Lebanon, no Jordan, etc.. There was only the Ottoman empire. Jews and arabs were both citizens of the Ottoman empire. Following the break up of the Ottoman empire, Jews concentrated in what is now Israel. Wars broke out, Palestinians fled, but so did Jews. Did the arabs "colonize" downtown Tripoli after all the Jews left? Similar population transfers have occured with the founding of most modern day states including: Poland, India, Pakistan, basically, all of Africa, the middle east, Eastern Europe, and large parts of Asia.

The Jews of the former Ottoman empire share a cultural, historical, linguistic, religious, and now proven genetic background with the Ashkenazi Jews of Europe and North America.

Yes I would prefer to believe actual proof as opposed to a book that Chomsky wrote before 30 years ago by an expert in linguistics (not anything else).

You also seemed to be obssessed with Chomsky's jewishness. What does that have to do with anything. All it really shows is that he Jewish populations are open to free speech and dissent.

I'm also very familiar with Chomsky's writing. It's largely based on the idea that Ashkenazi Jews are descended from Khazars (a turkic population from central Asia from the 6th-11th century that would have had many Asian physical features as that area was recently part of the Hun empire) and Eastern Europeans. This, however has been totally and uderly disproven by modern genetics.

Not eastern European:

http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v13/n3/full/5201319a.html

Not Khazars:

http://www.cell.com/AJHG/abstract/S0002-9297%2810%2900246-6

These are major publications, which show a distinct middle eastern ancestry to those of Jewish heritage. I know these are inconvenient truths for many to swallow, but they are irrefutable facts.

In the end, however, none of this changes the fact that Israel does exist and Israelis are going nowhere. I don't see how your ranting about who is or who isn't white, is going to change any of that. Israelis are not going to go home and tell their families: some guy on the internet said we're white now, so it's time to let Hamas kill us.

Anonymous

You keep pointing to the fact that Jews are all white, like it's some kind of obsession. Once again, I point to the fact, that most Jews in Israel are not white.

Prior to the WWI, there was no Israel, no Syria, no Palestine, no Egypt, no Lebanon, no Jordan, etc.. There was only the Ottoman empire. Jews and arabs were both citizens of the Ottoman empire. Following the break up of the Ottoman empire, Jews concentrated in what is now Israel. Wars broke out, Palestinians fled, but so did Jews. Did the arabs "colonize" downtown Tripoli after all the Jews left? Similar population transfers have occured with the founding of most modern day states including: Poland, India, Pakistan, basically, all of Africa, the middle east, Eastern Europe, and large parts of Asia.

The Jews of the former Ottoman empire share a cultural, historical, linguistic, religious, and now proven genetic background with the Ashkenazi Jews of Europe and North America.

Yes I would prefer to believe actual proof as opposed to a book that Chomsky wrote before 30 years ago by an expert in linguistics (not anything else).

You also seemed to be obssessed with Chomsky's jewishness. What does that have to do with anything. All it really shows is that he Jewish populations are open to free speech and dissent.

I'm also very familiar with Chomsky's writing. It's largely based on the idea that Ashkenazi Jews are descended from Khazars (a turkic population from central Asia from the 6th-11th century that would have had many Asian physical features as that area was recently part of the Hun empire) and Eastern Europeans. This, however has been totally and uderly disproven by modern genetics.

Not eastern European:

http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v13/n3/full/5201319a.html

Not Khazars:

http://www.cell.com/AJHG/abstract/S0002-9297%2810%2900246-6

These are major publications, which show a distinct middle eastern ancestry to those of Jewish heritage. I know these are inconvenient truths for many to swallow, but they are irrefutable facts.

In the end, however, none of this changes the fact that Israel does exist and Israelis are going nowhere. I don't see how your ranting about who is or who isn't white, is going to change any of that. Israelis are not going to go home and tell their families: some guy on the internet said we're white now, so it's time to let Hamas kill us.

Anonymous

Just took a look at the link you provided:

http://s242816488.onlinehome.us/criminals2/

A lot of those people on the list are not white at all. In fact, even by the loosest of definitions only half would be "white". I really think you need to end your obsession that Israelis are "white colonists". That simply isn't true.

You're obviously seeing what you want to see. Where does this obsession with race come from? Are you transferring guilt from your own white colonization of North America?

Anonymous

Just took a look at the link you provided:

http://s242816488.onlinehome.us/criminals2/

A lot of those people on the list are not white at all. In fact, even by the loosest of definitions only half would be "white". I really think you need to end your obsession that Israelis are "white colonists". That simply isn't true.

You're obviously seeing what you want to see. Where does this obsession with race come from? Are you transferring guilt from your own white colonization of North America?

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